Meet your local Internet personality - Part 1 in a series

Posted by Ryan Jerz 06/19/2007. Permalink | Shortlink | Tweet it!

Ross is an eagle scout!Ross Armstrong, the blogger known as NV Up NorthWelcome to the first part in a series of posts regarding who the people are that you read in the northern Nevada blogosphere (a word I hate, by the way). Knowing who other bloggers and commenters are just makes the community stronger, so I’ve decided to profile them as I come across information that might be of interest. We’ll start today with one of my all-time favorite bloggers, and someone with whom I’ve developed quite a connection. It’s not often you get an opportunity for this type of connection to be made, but this blogger made sure it would last a long time.

Personality #1 – NVUpNorth

NVUpNorth, or “upnorth” when he’s feeling especially presumptive, is not his real name. Sorry to disappoint, because I know all of you have gotten to know his YouTube videos and Richardson love well under that name, but unfortunately, that’s not who he really is.

Ross Edward Armstrong, recent UNR Economics graduate is one ambitious cat.

Let’s start with the back story. Ross doesn’t seem to like people whose jobs include reporting on politics. He often questions their journalistic skills and integrity. Of course, later we actually get a taste of what he thinks blogging should be. Not to go all “Grad School Journalism” on the poor guy, but with the exception of two of his examples (and one of those is questionable), it’s just regular reporting, only faster and online. How cutting edge. The example that gets serious credit there is his about Kos. Downtown Makeover is close, but ultimately, it’s a basic journalistic function to hold government accountable. So I only give that one half credit.

Because of Ross’ propensity for media criticism, I tended to call him out on the issue of how things could be done better. If you’ve paid any attention at all to how I feel about blogs, you’ll see that even when he finally let on to his ideas, he was woefully behind the current thinking. It’s okay, though. He just turned 22 on Sunday. Exactly ten years and one week behind me in experience and, obviously, knowledge.

My tendency to call Ross out led to him lashing back in a most unwelcome manner. He took the time to play sockpuppet (the ninth comment) in an attempt to call me out on his own blog. Ultimately, however, his all-out attempt to shut me down came to a head on another site entirely when Ross came right out and said that I hadn’t voted in general elections the past however many years. Two things were wrong with the statement. One was laughably funny, the other was completely reprehensible. First, he was wrong. He went out on a limb to shut me down and was so wrong that I didn’t even get it. Second, he used his position within the Democratic Party to gather the information.

Let me make sure everyone understands that. Ross Edward Armstrong held a position within the Washoe County Democratic Party and used their voter rolls to find information on me and try to shut me down with it. The information is public, to be sure, but that’s not how he got it. He didn’t go down to the county registrar’s office and request it (which would have required more personal information than just my name, by the way). He went to his position at the Ministry of Truth, or wherever, and looked me up using information that is available to the Party for the purposes of canvassing, recruiting, etc. It’s equivalent to if I had used my position at the bank (when I worked there) to call out someone I didn’t like online. I would have had access to the person’s address as well. That’s the part that will make someone nervous. In fact, it did make me nervous. How many times did Ross drive by my house in the hopes of catching a glimpse? Only he knows.

Well, in a classic tit for tat, I figured I’d divulge information that truly is “public.”

Based on a tip (wow, Ross would love this use of blogging) I was able to find out a lot about Ross. First, as you might be able to tell from the above photo (the one where he’s wearing a brown shirt—heh), he’s a Boy Scout. But not just any scout, he’s legit. He’s an Eagle Scout. In fact, the bio on that page even has this classic line:

“He is a shining example of what Scouting and the Order of the Arrow stand for.”

I suppose he is if the Order of the Arrow stands for anonymous attacks on supposed opponents and attempting to shut down the speech of someone you don’t like. I’m sure the Boy Scouts would be very proud to have such a person in their ranks.

Ross dressed like a douche.Ross dressed like a douche.I will give him this, though. He is active. Nice touch creating the petition then not signing it until third. Veeeeerrrrrry clever. And the defense of Derby is always good, too. I mean, she did only lose by a solid 5%. It’s almost as if he’s learning from lawyers on how to spin stuff. Oh wait, he is!

Now I know. Maybe I should cut Ross a little slack. He’s just a dumb kid who made a mistake and came clean. In fact, plenty of you had his back in the process. “He’s young, and he’ll make mistakes. It was big of him to admit it.” Blah blah blah. Here is a snippet from a post that I wrote but never published at the time:

The apology also made a point of mentioning it was a “personal attack” and based on inaccurate information. That certainly shaped the subsequent discussion—the wrong way. As a result, UpNorth now has a thread full of comments calling what he did a mistake attributed to immaturity and youth (and of course they mentioned that he corrected that mistake by apologizing) and even calling it an impulsive act (sorry, impulsive acts don’t take place over a couple of days and come with smart-ass apologies which continue to attempt to denigrate the person originally attacked even further). Some people were even asking him to continue blogging. And what bothered me the most was that I saw the focus on the fact that what he said about me was incorrect. Nobody seemed willing to even entertain the possibility that it was an attempt by someone who works for a political party to keep me—a journalist and blogger—out of the conversation by discrediting me. You can bet your ass that UpNorth himself and the same commenters he has apologizing for him right now would be screaming to high heaven if it had been a young, immature Republican who had pulled the same stunt.

Smart people don’t do things like he did. They don’t slap the very ideals and system in which they put so much faith right in the face.

Especially…

When they have goals (link now broken…screencaps: message board and photo board).

That’s right. Our very own Ross Edward Armstrong is planning a run for Congress. Now, I’m certainly not an expert in this field—yet—but I kind of figure that if one is planning a run for Congress, one might want to avoid something that could easily be spun as a violation of the First Amendment. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not someone to run around claiming First Amendment violations by corporations, individuals, and anything else that’s non-governmental. But a guy planning a run for Congress!?!? Yeah, I think that qualifies. It’s a good bet that if, in fact, young Ross runs, I’ll be keeping my eye on him. I do live in his district, but Ross already knows that.

One thing I definitely want to make sure everyone understands is that I know some of you will not give a crap that this guy pulled this a few months ago. He’s one of you, right? He’s working to get Democrats elected, and that’s more important than anything. Hell, I might even be acting totally melodramatic here. But I was wronged. By a guy who plans to run for Congress and currently (still) holds some position in the Democratic Party. I’m pretty sure that’s something that should be pointed out. So here it was.

Also, isn’t this a shame?

Now, on a somewhat happier note, another Internet personality will be featured soon. Keep it tuned right here for all the latest on my next subject. It’ll be a good one.

Update (June 20, 2007 3:00pm)

Apparently Ross has decided to cancel his run for congress. As a result, he has removed the above-linked MySpace group dedicated to that run. Does that count as a weenie move or a manly one?

Update 2

Ross has decided to try to cover his tracks. Not on my watch!

Ryan JerzRyan Jerz is an all-around good guy who shoots photos and video, builds websites, and works in athletics at the University of Nevada, Reno. He received a Masters Degree in 2007 from the University of Nevada, Reno's Reynolds School of Journalism.

Comments

ed adkins wrote:

university professors are going to dissect this post to teach future generations the art of the smackdown.

oh wait- hold on. lemme just pull this out of my pocket. ready? JERZ in 08.

Jun 19, 09:43 PM


The Anon Guy wrote:

Excellent post.

Whoever is next is probably already quaking in their boots.

Jun 19, 11:52 PM


wolfy wrote:

I don’t know, seemed a bit supercilious to me. At the least acerbic. I’d go back and re-read it, but I haven’t got a Rolaids on me.

-M

Jun 21, 09:35 PM


Mike Jamieson wrote:

How many months has this been, Ryan?

Seems like a long time ago! (I know it’s only
a few months ago.)

Ross is a good guy. He’ll do okay. I hope you
can forgive him in the end. I think Nevadadem
and I (the two “apologists” you link) gave a fair
perspective on this, but I can see how you think
we were prejudicial. Fair enough.

Jun 22, 05:47 PM


The Anon Guy wrote:

Why would the amount of time matter, Mike?

It’s on the internet, so it will be there for years and years.

Ross Armstrong used his position in the party to carry out a personal vendetta, it wasn’t a spur of the moment “youthful indiscretion,” which was glossed over and rationalized by fellow partisan bloggers.

What was his “punishment”? Rebuked by the blogging community? Hardly. Virtually no other blog touched it. Banned from the State Party? No. Just, allegedly, his VAN priviliges were revoked (permanently, temporarily, who knows?). Did he close up shop like he promised? No. His self-imposed ban barely last two weeks. Did he even come clean as to who he was to his victim? Of course not. Even now he refuses to acknowledge it.

Those are the facts. He’s no Boy Scout when it comes to conduct.

Jun 22, 07:27 PM


Ryan Jerz wrote:

Mike, it’s about accountability. As a blogger, he has attempted to hold others accountable for their actions. He has done so while skating on accountability himself, being as he was previously anonymous. So when he took that shot at me I knew there was nothing else I could do. I don’t care if it had been 10 years ago. He did it, it’s a part of his character, and he now owns it—even though he’d likely never admit that.

Let’s look at what transpired since he did the act. He apologized, and we were forced to take his word as to what the conequences were. Since then, I have found out that Ross, in fact, is a recent graduate (like, as in a week or two ago) of the Democratic Leadership Academy! That leads me to two possible conclusions. 1) Nobody knew who UpNorth was and he lied about the consequences, or 2) The Party did know and chose to ignore it because if none of us knew who he was, how could we hold him accountable? Pardon me for not being happy at all that a political party is operating in this manner.

Mike, as someone who seems intimately involved in Party ongoings, which is accurate? It puts you in a tough logical position. Either you and your people are dirty scoundrels, or a guy you respect is a lying scumbag. Frankly, I don’t care about Ross Edward Armstrong. I do care that a lot of Democrats have been (rightly) screaming to high heaven about the abuses of the Bush Administration, yet are willing to not only overlook, but seemingly reward the same type of behavior from one of their own. I am not guided in any way shape, or form by my political ideology on this. I am shaped by what happened to me and the inherent hypocrisy of some very vocal folks here. As someone who took part, Mike, you are complicit in these actions, and you should be embarrassed.

Jun 23, 08:40 PM


Mike Jamieson wrote:

I think you have, it looks like, a few followup
questions that are obviously bothering you.
Did anyone know who nvupnorth was? In my case, I figured out who he was maybe a month ago. I don’t have first hand confirmation or anything like that, I just deduced it from a couple of things. As to whether nvupnorth lied about the consequences, I have no knowledge of that. Are
you presuming that because he graudated from the academy, that he continued to have VAN access? I have no knowledge of that one way or another. I’ll be in a future class, starting the end of August.

I also have no awareness of what “the Party” knew. I do know that among the classmate or two of nvupnorth’s (from the academy) that I know, no one knew that Ross = nvupnorth, until somewhat recently. (Again, no first hand confirmation, just a deduction based on a couple of things.)

Obviously, to say that I am complicit is not factually correct in any way and I know you will correct that statement. Unless you mean that by offering my own perspective on this also makes me something of a guilty partner in crime.

In fact, it is STILL merely a guess on my part that Ross = nvupnorth. I don’t know that for a verifiable fact…I just deduced that as so. It sounds like you (presumably) have confirmed this to be so?

So, as to the question of the Party rewarding Ross for bad behavior? I have no idea who was “in the know” about his identity. He actually seemed to be pretty much of a mystery until fairly recently. (In May, I know I thought I had
figured out who he was.) So, I don’t think it’s fair for you to be extending your outrage to targets beyond Ross. I can voice my take on it without having to be called a complicit partner.

Jun 24, 04:22 PM


Ryan Jerz wrote:

Mike, first, I really appreciate the response.

Your complicitness stems from the fact that you called the act bad, but have essentially come to the guy’s defense throughout. In the very thread where he admitted his “mistake” you were forgiving him and calling for his continued work for the party (at least in the sense of getting people elected). If you did not know who he was, then I apologize if I made it sound like you did. This isn’t about what you knew or didn’t know, though.

Like I said before, it’s about accountability. If he did what he did using his position within the party (which he admitted) then he should not be graduating from the party’s Leadership Academy. If the party stripped his VAN access, like he said they did, then they know who he is. If they didn’t strip it, then he’s a liar. In this case, both can not be true. So the question I am posing is, Is he a liar, or does the party not care what he did? It’s pretty simple. Either he was held accountable, or he wasn’t. If he was, then what the hell is the party doing keeping this guy around?

It’s certainly within their rights to do so, but people should know that’s how they operate. And it will just make any local Democrat who condemns the acts of Republicans who pull similar stunts completely hypocritical. I look forward to making sure they know that, too.

Jun 24, 07:57 PM


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